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Why would they?

Every one else is raising prices at so they will too.


I fucking hate it.

It encodes context it needs into doc comments and regular comments that make them in insufferable to read and so verbose because the comments contain info on other parts of the code base (that might have changed since that comment was written) but were useful to the model for its implementation. I have so far found no way to stop claude from doing this. It will sometimes do it with hand holding but the moment a task takes a slightly large amount of context its back to the word barf.


This is certainly a problem with out-of-the-box usage. But easily overcome. Spend time updating your harness. This is not a hard problem to solve and there are many helpful guides out there.

We basically took our documented (human) SDLC process and applied it to the relevant harness hooks. Since our SDLC docs talked about what good comments looked like and what to avoid, we basically had the direction for the tools. Opus 5 did throw us a loop and increase the verbosity and decrease usefulness of the text, but refining our documentation cleared that hurdle within about a day.


They are in a tough place.

They dont have the advantage of owning the OS (android/chrome and iOS / Safari) nor the advantage of advertising on the google home page like chrome.

The "customers" they are courting are security/privacy zealots who constantly want them "just work on the browser" but never seem to have an answer on how to pay for that.

I am hoping the advent of LLMs allows more entrants into the space at a faster speed. Time will tell. Maybe as FF dies ladybird will take over.


> They dont have the advantage of owning the OS (android/chrome and iOS / Safari)

They don't need to. Chrome does extremely well on Windows without "owning the OS".

> nor the advantage of advertising on the google home page like chrome

Very few people go to that page anyway.

> The "customers" they are courting are security/privacy zealots who constantly want them "just work on the browser" but never seem to have an answer on how to pay for that.

They already get half a billion dollars a year from Google for very little in exchange. They just need to spend that money on the website browser and not nonsense.


> They already get half a billion dollars a year from Google for very little in exchange. They just need to spend that money on the website browser and not nonsense.

QFT. The biggest impediment to Firefox's success is the Mozilla Org, which sees it as a cash cow to fund a zillion projects no one wants (sacrificing the future of the browser everyone wants).


Quantum field theory? Quiet Firefox tremors? What is this QFT you speak of?

Quoted for truth

Quoted for the truth.

Quarterly Financial Targets? Questionable Functionality and Technology?

Windows is not really a growing user base in a lot of places it is in decline.

Most "internet users" are mobile. The ones using windows are doing it from work laptops that are locked down and use edge (chrome).

If windows was a growing market MS would not be so far down the extraction path they have gone with the OS.


Edge still doesn't have a market share as big as Chrome, even among desktop browsers. Chrome is still a behemoth at 70% of all desktop browser usage.

Silly take. Chrome does extremely well on Windows because every Google site, from search to Youtube to Gmail to Docs nudges people to install it. Without that 99% of people would just stay on Edge.

Firefox as "just a browser" that is entirely dependent on funding from its main competitor just isn't a future-proof solution. That's why they keep on trying to come up with new revenue streams.


> Silly take. Chrome does extremely well on Windows because every Google site, from search to Youtube to Gmail to Docs nudges people to install it. Without that 99% of people would just stay on Edge.

No they wouldn't. Everyone recommended Chrome, and it came long before Edge (given Edge is based on Chromium). People have got used to Chrome. That's why it does well. People don't even interact with those sites so much any more, as they've all moved to phone apps, but they all still use Chrome.

> Firefox as "just a browser" that is entirely dependent on funding from its main competitor just isn't a future-proof solution. That's why they keep on trying to come up with new revenue streams.

Just paying far fewer executives and putting money aside for lean years is a good start. Put aside $150m/year and spend $100m on servers and engineers and that'll get you a long way. But because it's free money it gets spent on nonsense.


Firefox has 1.4 billion in reserves and no debt.

If they stop paying tens of millions to their management, they could easily afford paying devs in perpetuity just from investing that money.


I don't think you get the compensation for devs capable of working on this stuff.

1.4b; assume 5% returns. That’s $70M per year for devs.

At $1M per year (equivalent to a good startup exit, but zero risk), that’s 70 engineers; probably senior to principal phd’s with 10 yr+ experience.

If that’s not enough to maintain a web browser, then pay them to simplify the damn thing.


The feature set of a browser is set by competitors and what sites use. If you don't strive to play that game you're irrelevant.

Only people who live in SF are capable of programming a browser?

There's something in the water that makes you just better.

> how to pay for that

I would not mind to pay for the browser, but they will not let me.


This is a consequence of browser monopolies, established by Microsoft in the 90s: everyone should have to pay for a browser and make a deliberate choice in vendor. The fact that they're free and subsidized by large businesses in other markets, rather than being a product you choose to buy, is a concrete example of monopolistic market distortion.

You say that, but out of the remaining users of FF, I severely doubt even 1% would pay. Any attempt to paywall would kill whatever they have left.

I've donated to thunderbird since they made a promise that won't go into other weird/stupid mozilla ventures.

I'd gladly do the same for firefox, but they have not given the opportunity.

If I had the cash back then I'd do the same for B2G/firefoxOS.


> The "customers" they are courting are security/privacy zealots who constantly want them "just work on the browser" but never seem to have an answer on how to pay for that.

We all know how that was paid for. Google. But instead of taking that money stream and investing it 100% into making it the best browser ever, they pursued a myriad of fancy distractions. Yes, making a sustainable browser project is hard. Making a sustainable browser project while being constantly distracted by side project and political activism [1] is even harder. I am not saying if Mozilla stayed focused the win would be guaranteed. But I am pretty sure doing it like they are doing it guarantees failure.

[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/blogarchive/blog/2021/01/08/we-need...


Doesn't Mozilla foundation have millions of dollars, including paid for by Google? "Linux" is better capitalized, "Wikipedia" is sort of open source, what else ranks above Mozilla?

Firefox works everywhere I point it to, for now. "Let the user modify their own software" does not cost extra.


Being beholden to Google who might decide that the risk of antitrust is lower than the price they are paying for that search box is a pretty precarious place to be in.

The series of own goals is a bigger problem. They should spend their $ on FF and allow direct donations that only go to FF and not to their hobby projects.

Difference between taking your own notes and skimming someone else's.

I have found in the last year I "get more done" but I learn less. Whats even worse is if I burn though my token quota I am less likely(and less able) to "switch to manual". LLMs make an ocean of decisions and assumptions very quickly and if you don't slow it down very intentionally (and lose the promise of the AI providers are pitching) you will quickly not have a good idea of how systems work.


It’s funny, I’m the exact opposite. I’ve tackled projects at scales I could never have done before, and learned more than I would have.

My actual coding ability is probably lower, but I’ve learned so much about music theory and production, CAD, and statistics. All because my hobby projects can go so much further than before.


Isn't there a risk that this learning is too superficial to actually stay around and impact your thinking in the long run?

How I experience it at least, there is no free lunch. Something that gives you knowledge and experience will almost by definition be painful and uncomfortable.

We use AI because it is faster, but that speed has a consequence.


Someone else hit on it: a lot this discussion is about whether we as individuals see collection and maintenance of pure knowledge as the goal, or achievement of outcomes.

I’d say both are valid. I’m definitely an outcome person. I like making things. I’m taking a multi-year break from a decades-long CNC ceramics project, and I have no doubt my knowledge and skills will atrophy. That’s fine, I’m confident I can pick them up again if/when I return.

If I fail to work hard enough on understanding the physics of alternate tunings and rely “too much” on AI to produce a piece, I’m ok with that. If and when I hit a wall and AI isn’t giving the results I want, I’ll dive deeper.


Will that knowledge stick? Given that you blasted through many things relatively quick?

As someone in a similar journey, I say: No, the knowledge won't stick.

OTOH, the output might stick?

Then the question becomes do you value knowledge for its own sake or for what it enables you to do? I don't have an answer.


What an insightful response. I thought about that for a while, and its a great way to reframe some of this debate about the desirability of using AI.

I’ve never been a cram for the test kind of person. I do best when using knowledge in an ongoing basis. Regardless of AI, things I studied intensely a decade ago but never use are by and large gone, whereas things I use frequently stay and deepen.

I don’t expect it to be any different with AI, but YMMV.


At this point no one is buying into mainframes are they?

So they are just selling to the existing pool of users for which the price just has to come in under the cost/risk of rewriting all their ancient stuff.


Someone has to be buying mainframes. Otherwise, there's no point in continuing to develop them. Shareholders would revolt.


The existing 1,000 customers replace their old mainframes with newer models.


> At this point no one is buying into mainframes are they?

If you want to be a high-volume consumer bank (insurance is similar - it's about processing a high volume of transactions), you have few alternatives. You can get a couple mainframes (you should place them in different datacenters), with their extreme reliability and stability, or you can build your infrastructure with commodity distributed systems, but then you'll need to build the same level of reliability out of your unreliable components. Current solutions are getting really good at that, but it's your job to integrate them. In the end, it's not really a matter of how much money you spend, but how you spend it - the numbers will closely match.

Regulators don't really care how you do it, as long as you don't fail to provide adequate guarantees to your customers (banking is extremely regulated, and customers are well protected).


Sure, but there are very very few new consumer banks.

Most of the existing ones already have mainframes because they were early adopters.


There are many "new banks" that have been using cloud. It remains to be seen if they'll opt to migrate their stacks to mainframes, in which case, the ARM support might come in handy, as more packages are better optimized (as in using platform-specific functionality) for ARM than for s390x (where I don't think many people spend much time).

They are mostly leased, I think.


I don't think that's the case anymore.


Our GitlabCE instance has been sitting in the racks for nearly two years with almost 100% uptime running on 10 year old xeons that have long since paid for themselves.

Of course it is not free of all management but for our use case it is working.

There are hiccups with the CI runners from time time but nothing major and we have another machine in another rack that serves as a backup which can be brought up ~< 20 minutes.

I know companies have long since tossed their expertise for hosting their own stuff in favour of SaaS but at some point its hard to beat the up time of a single machine.


We have the expertise. We don’t have the interest in fighting our internal “security” teams to keep running VMs.


Potato potato.

Expertise isn't just "Do we have a sysadmin?", it's also "Does the org enable them to get their job done?".


You are missing the compliance. Enterprise is mostly compliance, making job done is just second


Which is exactly why we saw 1000s of ' "I" rewrote <mature software> in rust' posts last year when agentic coding really took off.

Agents (even ones powered by small models) do reasonably well when provided an oracle to work against.


I've included docs and tests as part of my vibe coding endevours. It doesn't matter if either is litterally correct, but they create guardrails for future context to prevent regresssions and blind avenues, etc.

It's fairly successful but hits the time constrains and reduces the "value" of getting a local model to develop software.

It's still a bump in productivity.


how do incorrect tests or docs help create correct guardrails?

if your tests and docs are possibly incorrect, and you're not writing the code.. how do you know if it even works? for extremely simple software you can just use it but for anything with access to disk or the network or with user options...

you sound psychotic. actually. so nevermind, LLM psychosis is extremely common on this website, that's def all that's happening here


huh. Oh, I understand, you don't read LLM output.

In local coding, the screen scrolls enough to actually read it.

But that's fine. enjoy your misunderstanding.


> when provided an oracle to work against.

You mean when the cocaine piracy parrot has something to plagiarise?


You mainly get this because honestly I was already happy with the existing product. The main focus of this post is not something I was really looking for and is a nice addition but I would still be using the existing product regardless.

Basically I just want search that I can actually filter are returns relevant useful results.. This adds an extra facet that I might filter on from time to time but the main ones, which are time and exact strings, are the reason I use the product.


I've been enjoying Kagi for the last couple years.

Even as LLMs slurp up most of the internet and replace search I think Kagi is still useful.

Reddit has recently blocked access to old reddit without an account and the ability to filter out stuff like that is useful.


Alternatively, you can configure Kagi to rewrite Reddit links to point to an alternative front-end via https://kagi.com/settings/redirects

  ^https://(www\.)?reddit.com|https://safereddit.com
EDIT: See here for a list of instances: https://github.com/redlib-org/redlib#instances


I had Kagi configured to rewrite links old.reddit.com. Looks like I need to update it.

Edit: Actually I think this was part of their documentation to explain the intended use of that feature. Too bad this will now no longer work!

(https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/redirects.html, see example 1)


LibRedirect is useful for this (and other sites) too if you want it to apply over the whole browser.

Friends send me links to reddit and stuff so it's handy to have an automatic redirect.


Wow, thank you. I never know this. I feel good now, in a strange way when a paid service serve me well instead of exploiting me.


Thanks for pointing out safereddit and other redlib instances! I had the old.reddit.com redirect configured for Uruky and was devastated that it no longer worked. Updated, cheers!


Super nice. Good reminder to donate to my favorite instance host, thanks.


NEW Reddit has recently started blocking logged-out access too. Stupid modal popup with "Join the most real place on the internet" (yeah, right) banner that appears after about 20 seconds.

I'm not logging in to my private account from a work machine that's MITMd for "security", just to browse search results or take a short break!

(I've been a user for nearly 21 years, but using it less and less with each stupid choice - these days I post a comment maybe once a week there. I think I may finally be done with Reddit, sadly. It was good while it lasted.)


> NEW Reddit has recently started blocking logged-out access too.

That'd be an important milestone in enshittification when it comes to other entities that were previously happy to outsource their fan-forums, support, announcement systems, etc. And I do mean "enshittification" in a formal quasi-academic sense, because it's not just about things getting worse, but about the middleman starting to exploit people on either end. Adding a login-wall means that content and communities built up with a kinder kind of collaboration will become hostages, to boost Reddit Corporation's user-stats and creepy data harvesting for investors.

Kind of like how various groups started using Twitter as a way to provide a scalable stream of announcements--sometimes time-critical ones--to an audience. The entire use-case goes down the toilet when users aren't being shown your stuff in chronological order anymore.


> user stats

This is really it though isn't it

I know new reddit has its potential inspiration in stopping LLM scraping(?) but websites are made worse because of some stupid metric that has to be fulfilled


llm scraping? they encourage it, recently chatgpt stopped referencing reddit as of late and thier traffic dropped, that is why they are trying to make people login.

people were burned by the purges reddit has been doing, so they end up just lurking instead. i dont think reddit will hold back thier filtering.


Yes "the most real place" where they can just ban you whenever (the site, or its legions of - installed? - subreddit mods)


I got banned from the subreddit for my province (in Canada) a couple months ago - the stated reason was "ban evasion". It was my first ever ban.

Cool.


I wish they put more effort into Kagi news. Feels very barebones but has a lot of potential.


What do you feel is missing for a free news offering?

I don’t personally like it all that much, because it feels like it’s missing the depth I like in well-written reporting, but for those who just want a quick overview of topics once a day, it seems to work pretty well, no?


There are some defects like what does this mean?

> dir="auto" rather than inheriting the story's direction: quotes are reproduced verbatim, so a Hebrew story routinely carries an English one. Inheriting rtl left its closing punctuation stranded at the start of the line (KNEWS-453). -->

https://news.kagi.com/s/3gskhn


Kagi dev here, sorry about the bug; we had a malformed nested HTML comment that ended up partially rendering. This is now fixed.


Hey, I remember reading along before and around the time you were “officially” hired – happy Kagi could recognize your work, and seemingly continues to do so :)


Okay, strange, but that’s a bug, not a web app “feeling barebones” wrt. core functionality for most users, at least IMO.

Has that been reported on kagifeedback.org yet?


Me too. The longer I use it, the more I like it. Initially I found myself going back to google fairly often, but unless I'm specifically trying to find a product for sale in my region, Kagi is almost always better now. Maybe Kagi got better, or google got worse, or probably both.


> Reddit has recently blocked access to old reddit without an account

I don't understand why this is a barrier considering their accounts aren't invasive at all since you can use a temporary email account to sign up, and then you never have to do anything via email after that.


I just don’t want an account. I disagree with how they’re running things these days and I just don’t see the point when I only want to read posts, not make them, or comment or vote on them. And the more they push “Make an account! Get the app!” the less likely I am to do it. It’s a really hostile way to treat users. I don’t like most social media and it doesn’t bother me not having accounts on them, but it’s become such a pain with Reddit because it was one of the only places online left to get decent information about specific things. I’m now finding myself searching for things online and finding no answers because Reddit is inaccessible and that’s where the answer tends to be.


That sucks to have to create an account just to read user generated content if you don't contribute.


They are pretty ban-happy, and generally outright hostile to newly created accounts that try to participate.

I created an account recently after not having one for a couple years. I was banned within 2 weeks. I accidentally connected to my VPN when I had a Reddit page open in a minimized window that I forgot about. I assume that’s what did it. Last I checked, I couldn’t even login with this account anymore.


I don't like assisting reddit's monetization/AI training machine by tying my browsing activity directly to an account identity. I would prefer to browse anonymously and make them work at least a little bit harder to compile my anonymous activity into a coherent single-user profile.

If that doesn't bother you, then good for you, and we have different feelings about privacy.


I'm annoyed mostly because I always surf with private browsing, so I always have to log in again and again. And for some reason I haven't bothered checking, Firefox doesn't save the username field.


I can still access old.reddit.com from my country/region


It is just people without accounts who are being blocked, and maybe it is regional?


If I could wave a magic wand, I would implement this like some kind of token replenishment or quota system like every IP address gets to access old dot like a very low number and if you log in with the same IP address you get more quota or replenished a little faster if you also come in with no auth like from a private window. Of course, in an ideal world we wouldn't have to do anything like this but yes, regional is likely as well.

I know I worked with some programmers in India and apparently some ISP will do some kind of trickery so like a lot of customers share the same ipv4 address. So what I said above might not actually make sense in the real world.


Is that trickery NAT, network address translation? It is a pretty widespread technique I think, we’d have run out of ipv4 addresses a while ago without it.


Yes, it is called carrier grade nat but the problem is you can't assume that an IP address maps to a user or even a household neatly. That's the problem.


> Reddit has recently blocked access to old reddit without an account

Old Reddit still works just fine without an account.


Are you sure? If I visit https://old.reddit.com/r/haskell/ in private mode (i.e. without my auth cookies) then I am asked to log in.


I guess they are A/B testing this “feature”.


Probably a VPN or your IP was soft-banned. I have the same thing happen due to my network wide vpn


Yeah, that loads right up for me.


Wellp, not for me... Shame, reddit has/had really good answers to a variety of problems that I've had over the years. Not sure if there's a replacement for it, or if there will ever be another.


They are just trying to close the loophole from the scrapers.

They are selling content to google et al for their LLMs and they don't want to give it away for free.


You can still add .json to any thread and get the full comments in a single object. The anti scraping features must be a rate limiting thing, because it’s very machine readable otherwise. They just want to push people to be logged in and use the app.


Not for me - both at work and home. I need to be logged in.


Doesn't work for me


> Old Reddit still works just fine without an account.

It works sometimes, it's been inconsistent lately. I assume they're rolling out the blocks incrementally or something, because sometimes I can get through to it in a private window and other times I can't.


Maybe for you.

I get a nice

> Log in to use old Reddit

> To keep Reddit safe, accounts are required to access old Reddit. Log in, or continue without an account on reddit.com.


You in the UK?


I get the same, seemingly randomly, from US.

No more, since I installed the "always old reddit" plugin in firefox.


No, but I am not in the US


Not working for me either without an account anymore. Seems like a very recent change.


I had to login the other day to use it. Probably getting slowly rolled out.


As of right now, on Firefox for Android, I am prompted to log in.


it works just fine for you, but not everyone.


Not for long, sadly.


Nah fuck the companies and their horse shit.

99% percent of them intentionally turn the "decline" choice into a 5 - 10 step game of dark patterns even though the EU policy says it should be equally easy to decline. They know its bullshit but they also know the chance that someone will drag them through court is low.


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