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But that’s also a data point and could/will be flagged as suspicious behaviour. Opting out of the norm makes you identifiable just as much.

Not everything has to happen in your or my lifetime. Not everything will happen in our lifetimes. If time is so important, Haiku was never going to work for you anyways on account of it being niche, which adds friction, which adds time. Velocity isn’t going to fix this either


As I mentioned, projects that take a long time make for interesting artistic statements. But if the goal isn't performance art but is utility, then alacrity matters.

Many other niche projects have enjoyed enough velocity to have meaningful utility, in my lifetime. Linux was still niche when I started using it in '94.


I think that's a false dichotomy.

Some people enjoy building things. It's not performance art, it's a hobby. Can Haiku not be a hobby for people who enjoy hacking away at BeOS? (You might think I'm splitting hairs here, but performance art is precisely the wrong analogy to use, since performance art is for the benefit of others. Performance art is inherently public and assessable in terms of how it reaches others, unlike hobbies. Performance art is env=PROD.)

Was the purpose of Haiku ever utility? What do you define as utility? If I spend a day building a shelf, does that have more or less utility than buying a shelf from IKEA? What if I like making shelves? What if I like making OSes? Does the shelf (/OS) that I build have less utility than the one from IKEA (/MS)?

In economics, utility is a measure of individual satisfaction. The person who likes tinkering with Haiku is deriving cold hard economic utility from Haiku right now. What should it matter to this person whether you find Haiku web scale and production ready? John Q Public is never going to run Haiku, no matter how much polish you throw at it. Why rush to some goal line that doesn't exist in the first place?


If its purpose is to be the output of a hobby then it is art; if it is shared with the world, then it is performance art.

Art has utility, of course; but we're discussing primary goals.


Yeah the title reads quite weird, but I would think “turned up” instead of “turned into”. The domain didn’t cause geopolitical war after all.


I definitely assumed it was a Bloomberg terminal for doom scrollers.


Let’s go with what this is actually about, windmills. I lived next door to a farm with windmills on it and I actually found them mesmerizing and nice to look at. Also a fun talking point with people visiting, but if we all had them in our backyard I suppose that novelty would wear off.

So tl;dr: I would absolutely want to have windmills as my neighbours again. Datacenter not so much, but they are also substantially bigger, though not taller, than windmills.


they are both noisy


Isn’t that the same bet that famously profitable companies like Uber did in the ride share market?


It's not the exact same bet, but it rhymes.

It worked out for Uber, they are wildly profitable now after spending a decade losing money.

Also worked out as Amazon managed to outlast all the dotcom era e-commerce competitors while being unprofitable.


> It worked out for Uber, they are wildly profitable now after spending a decade losing money.

Uber have a 10% margin, which is definitely not what I'd consider wildly profitable. (Their post tax numbers look better, because of accumulated losses).


Uber is a two sided marketplace and was still famously unprofitable for at the same time.

Over 14 years, Uber burnt ~31 Billion dollars and in nearly whereas the amount invested within AI seems to be within Trillions at this point and in near future with a product which doesn't have much moat and shaky financials on profit.


This thread was similarly eye opening to me. But it explains why that store is always packed, apparently people just do weekend trips to Costco.


When you get up from a seat and walk a few steps you are already doing that on something that is hurtling down space. We don’t notice that our planet moves a lot, because we can’t really see the movement in our reference frame. If you were on a plane without any windows, no turbulence and no sound cues from the engine, you wouldn’t know when getting up from your plane seat that you are in a moving object either.

Acceleration is a real force that we can feel. But once moving at a constant speed, physics dictates that it’s all the same. That’s also why you can throw a tennis ball up on a plane and not have it fly backwards immediately smacking into the person behind you.

In the reference frame of you and the aircraft, you are not moving at all and neither is the plane. In the reference frame of the ground you and the plane are moving.


Semiconducting materials have relatively small band gaps, they are insulators that take very little additional energy to become conductors. In contrast good insulators incinerate before they start conducting (or turn into plasma).

Energy being energy means that high enough ambient heat can kick electrons into the higher orbitals because the band gap is so small. This also happens at normal ambient temperatures, but those electrons don’t make it very far and there aren’t that many. At 200c a closed gate is not stopping enough electrons from moving through it anymore.

At least this is the slightly hand waved technical explanation. Project in Flight on Youtube has an excellent video on how semiconductors work.


That shouldn’t be a problem then given that we don’t care about environmental impacts anymore.


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