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Very interesting

Oh for goodness sake, stop feeding the Russian bots. They love it too much!! :)

You're arguing with a bot probably. :) And I think you're right. The word 'slop' has become a lazy way to indicate that one is anti AI. Fair enough, eh?

I have a growing stable of self made 'slop'. products on my phone and computer which I use happily and productively every day to save time and provide assistance.


Oh very funny, very much in the spirit of engaging with what others say on the best possible basis.

Why, thank you.

Man, this pre-IPO propaganda is getting boring!


Wake me up at ipo this all feels like a soap opera show and outsourced pr


I have a phone and PC rapidly filling up with apps I've created myself because I'm fed up with subscriptions and invasive advertising. And they do exactly what I want them to do, not one iota more. And you don't need Alpha or Fable. Cheap models or local are now capable of doing the job if you are patient and know what you're doing. Calling this stuff AI slop is so short-sighted it's not true. :)


Really interesting experiment. Are there any other variables which could have been missed though?


Also memory could be a thing for complex open prompts. But creativity is a mix of model, context, harness


I'll give it a go. Currently using TurboLLM, so it'll be interesting to see the difference.


The only problem is it has a nasty habit of wiping all your settings on random upgrades. Did it to me recently. Instant uninstall.


Why?


answered in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49488138

as an aside younger writers of a certain poetic bent often want to write manifestos, and damn those tend to be really embarrassing.


Embarrassing for who?


can't resist given the context, but it should be embarrassing for whom.

When one says a text is embarrassing there are generally three potential objects of embarrassment, the writer, the reader, or, if there is one, the target of the text.

In the case of a manifesto the manifesto writer intends for the target of the manifesto to be embarrassed, but often the actually embarrassed is the unsuspecting writer and the cringing reader.


>> the manifesto writer intends for the target of the manifesto to be embarrassed

Huh? Citation please.

(and good catch on 'whom')


>Huh? Citation please.

it is of course a bit of a stretch on some of the meanings of embarrassed, as many manifestos want their targets to suffer things far worse than embarrassment, so let us say embarrassment is just one of the negative things a manifesto hopes to see in its target.

Here are some synonyms for embarrassed - https://dictionary.cambridge.org/thesaurus/embarrassed I believe as a general rule artistic manifestos are often very focused on causing some of these feelings in their targets.

to make some examples: if we assume that the target of the Communist Manifesto is Capitalism we can say that it is hoped that Capitalism suffers negative consequences, amongst which embarrassment is a relatively minor one.

If we assume that the Surrealist manifesto has a target of the old garde of French art we can say it is hoped that the old garde suffers some embarrassment and fades away, being inconsequential to the world that surrealism has created.

The same operation seems to exist for any manifesto I have ever read, including the manifesto of the current discussion which, surprisingly, is not at all for any of the things it has announced it stands against.

If you do not agree, please provide an example of a single manifesto that says we stand for certain things and the things that are against us are really great and we love them.


>> artistic manifestos are often very focused on causing some of these feelings in their targets.

I notice you have dropped in 'artistic' which is a new criterion. Sloppy. :) Not interested in chatting with bots for now.


artistic manifestos are a subset of manifestos.

As for me, I am not interested in chatting with people with a kink for insulting others as bots.



Why?


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