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It’s like it was designed in a lab to maximize engagement on Reddit.

This argument only makes sense if you equate a printed book with a chatbot. They aren't the same thing, and the chatbot's outputs aren't copyrighted.

Between people.

It's bad enough from Opus, but it's worse how people have actually retooled their vocabulary around these tools. In the US tech industry, at least.

Have people done that? Or are they just meat puppets?

Do the needful please and reconsider your comment

Seems very cool. I'm wondering what the next step would be for performance here. Trying python as suggested is quite slow so far.

  ~ # time python3 hello.py
  Hello World!
  real    0m 5.48s
  user    0m 4.11s
  sys     0m 1.24s

There's a JIT, so running the same thing more than once makes it faster:

  ~ # time hello 
  Hello, world!
  real 0m 1.89s
  user 0m 0.67s
  sys 0m 1.14s
  ~ # time hello 
  Hello, world!
  real 0m 0.97s
  user 0m 0.36s
  sys 0m 0.55s
This would to me imply an obvious route of pre-warming the resumed image with your program. Or going all-in and natively compiling to wasm, but that's a much bigger lift.

I think it could be made much faster by emulating Linux system calls instead of running a real kernel, and translating x86 binaries to wasm before running (using something like cheerpx).

> Intention matter a lot in US law.

Maybe (and historically, not with CFAA) - but they're still going to extradite you to a trial here to find out which is more than enough to ruin your life. The government is already looking for a great excuse to criminalize open source models.


Who was prosecuted under CFAA for something they did not intend to do?

Robert Morris, Lori Drew, probably a few others, depending on what you mean by their intent.

Intent is literally a requirement for conviction under CFAA. It's the first line of the law: "Whoever having knowingly accessed a computer without authorization or exceeding authorized access..."

Robert Morris very intentionally wrote a computer virus, released it into the wild to infect computers he didn't have permission to use, and tried to cover his tracks by making it look like it came from MIT instead of Cornell. The only accidental part was that the virus was too successful, and that he got caught.

Lori Drew intentionally violated MySpace's TOS (in the course of cyberbullying a child until she killed herself), and was acquitted because TOS violations don't rise to the level of a crime.


> The government is already looking for a great excuse to criminalize open source models.

Sounds interesting+scary. Do you have some source for this ?


Anthropic and Openai, but especially anthropic, are lobbying the us government to make it happen

The government or OpenAI and Anthrophic?

Because if you mean the Government, I think they frankly just care whoever is paying them to make an executive order or worse a law paid by corporations to not only block, but ideally also ANHILIATE ANY POTENTIAL COMPETITION.

It's the ultimatum against the small guys. Sold as "Anti-China", when in reality it's only purpose is total dependency to corporations by law.


The support of OSS models on HN just days after finding out about the message board incident is so bizarre to me.

Do you guys really not comprehend the impact of giving every script kiddie an Astra-equivalent model to play with, this time without any guardrails whatsoever?

Cause I'm starting to think you aren't really thinking through the impact of power plants, hospitals, etc all being hacked en masse. People will die.

Or making it easy for anyone to make a virus (it's not hard, mechanically). Even more people will die.

Taking this to the extreme: You don't just give every kid a "do anything" super intelligent button. Open source models have a limited lifespan whether you like it or not, for the safety of all of us as a whole.


"Open source models have a limited lifespan whether you like it or not". this tinpot dictator mindset is typical of anthropic.

Who will decide how to use the power of ai...you?

it is no surprise that the companies and safety institutes who believe that they alone may 'tame' the fire, are the cause of safety incidents. a safety test caused the explosion at chernobyl.

anthropic and openai are the danger to society.

they are the ones making the dangerous models. they are the ones using tens of millions USD of inference, and thousands of agents, to hack computer systems.

i have trained zero dangerous models. i own zero servers that i use to run hacking agents. i could run one hacking agent with my single subscription.

there are some arrogant researchers remaining at anthropic who believe that they do care about safety. those who cared about safety at openai have left.

depending on how it goes, we might need some kind of earlier intervention by the US government to take control away from the current leadership of the ai companies and prevent further incidents.


Very easy to download abliterated GLM 5.3 and start doing bad things with it, and it'll be easier when Astra-level variants are available

Just because you don't do a bad thing doesn't mean other people won't. It's why you don't give everyone an RPG launcher.


"Very easy" if you ignore the hardware requirements, anyone could do it?

why should you have the RPG launcher and not me?

I think we're being trolled by solenoid0937. I call Poe's Law.

I’d rather that capability be wide spread and “democratized” than have all of humanity enslaved to the oligopoly holding control of the godhead.

The support of OSS models on HN just days after finding out about the message board incident is so bizarre to me.

Other sites beckon.


Yes, I'm aware that the HN majority is a hyper-libertarian echo chamber that loves to outsource the problem of "technology hurting regular people" if it means they get to keep their toys/investments.

After all, who cares if abliterated extremely intelligent OSS models result in actual innocent people dying? That's <insert group here> problem. We need to be able to generate our uncensored furry fanfics, goddamnit!


State actors, professional criminals will have same or better capabilities and do not hesitate to use them. On defense end we'll have only "pay bigcorp" option.

OSS models can help to fix infra especially for folks who would never do it themselves. We do not know yet what final effect would be and it doesn't seem sky is falling now or in near future.

"people dying and furry fanfics" is a scarecrow and distractor respectively, it would be awesome if more specific examples would be used in place.


> State actors, professional criminals will have same or better capabilities

State actors do but they are not unhinged enough to use this to cause massive loss of life, unlike random crazy people with access to a computer.

Professional criminals don't have access. Please explain exactly how you expect a professional criminal to get access to a non-safety-tuned Astra/Fable equivalent.

> OSS models can help to fix infra

You can work with the vendors of critical software to fix infra first, without giving every random crazy person access to something that creates cyber/bioweapons.

> "people dying and furry fanfics" is a scarecrow

You don't think people will die if OSS models make it easy to create a bioweapon, or make it easy to hack hospitals, infrastructure, and the like? Please explain your thinking.

It's very easy to order all of the raw material needed to create a virus, the challenge is in making a viable one. But models make this easy.

Same for cyber. Hospitals, emergency services, and infrastructure like power plants are not sufficiently hardened to withstand an attack from Fable-class models.


Criminals don't need Astra or Fable. Get a bunch of GPUs, a good enough open weight model and a custom harness. What the model doesn't have in its weights it can research the Internet. How do you think black hat hacking is being done right now?

On bio: while it's easy to order all the raw material, there's the whole process of culturing bacteria/viruses/etc. that isn't trivial, and while a LLM might help in explaining stuff for rookies, there needs to be somebody physically working on it. It's not automatic. Once you get to this level, you'll find that any undergrad biologist or chemist can already make bio/chem weapons, and you don't see it happening. Terrorist groups already employ biologists or chemists that are supporters of their cause, no need for LLMs.

On cyber: aside of the question of why critical infrastructure is on the Internet on the first place (ah yes, lowest bidders, people not caring enough, business not giving IT/OT budget, S in IoT standing for security etc), if the available models can't handle cyber tasks, how can you defend yourself? See the HF "attack" that HF had to use GLM-5.2 to investigate what happened. This is the best argument for open models. Unless of course, you are the AI model creator or somebody they authorized to use their sanctioned model/harness and want to create a moat for their business.

This is FUD. Creation of business moats by fear.


The risks of open models are real.

However, I’d feel better about ceding control of AI to the government if they didn’t seem so intent on building an apparatus for surveillance/control.

Your “furry fanfic” is a somewhat pathetic scarecrow; this is a complicated topic.


Is this "think of the children, think of the hospitals" argument? Really?

Meaningless phrase used to dismiss arguments, please engage with the actual argument.

I don't think you understand how bad it will be if anyone has a button that can hack anything, our infrastructure is not ready for this. Actual people will die. Do you just not get this?

Bioweapons as well. Do you not understand how easy it is to craft a virus at home? You can literally order everything you need online. Again, actual people will die.

You are arguing the equivalent of letting everyone own missile launchers or RPGs because "open source good."


If and I mean IF it will be a (A) "hack anything" button, it as well will be a (B) "find a vuln in my site" button too. And a (C) "harden my site" too. And limiting such buttons to a few corporations does not make any sense because script-kiddies will still have access to (A).

Did you know (C) is possible without causing mass chaos that results in many people dying? In ways that don't give every script kiddie access to (A, B)?

It turns out you can give defenders the opportunity to front-run, at least on the most critical and widely used infrastructure.

Same with bio risks.


No, that's an illusion, that's the thing. You can't physically have (C) without the (A). Large corporations will spend billions trying to convince the population it is somehow possible, but the reality is different.

You absolutely can have (C) without widespread (A), you just need to limit the audience that gets the tools, and in fact the big labs are already engaging in (C) in collaboration with the government and vendors of critical software.

That you don't have access to (C) to harden your blog is a non-issue from a societal perspective, hardening the software that our infrastructure relies on first is simply more important.


Limiting progress by letting only select corporations access the stuff is how you fall behind China, UAE and in a few years even Kazakhstan.

Whoever wants to have access to (A) will have it, but letting only few select corporations provide (C) will mean majority will be priced out of (C).

Are you a shill or something?


I very much doubt China is going to let their citizens freely use AI for hacking. In fact they keep a very tight leash on corporations and their employees.

So long as real logistics systems are isolated and secured what real risk to stable society is there?

Your use of the internet may lead you to greatly overestimate the number of people who take what they read online as real. More people than you think treat this shit, regardless of the website/forum, like Jerry Springer and Satuday Night Live; just entertainment.

The STEM crowd often overthinks the impact of violating their pet theory.

Can an LLM escape its computer entirely and stomp through a city center like a kaiju? Settle down.

You're veering towards thought policing over speculation.


Nothing unites the public behind restrictions like a good dose of fear. The "for the children" angle is a master key for regulation—always sold as protection from the big bad wolf.

"Trust us, we're here to protect you." Sure we are. /s

It's only a matter of time before open-source gets banned in the US under that same paternalistic security blanket. /s


It's really incredible how so many of the people that in one thread will talk about workers rights will also come out to bat for some tech company's TOS.

Whatever your worldview is it's definitely not about freedom over authoritarianism.


I mean your article is pretty bad. You posted two promptly patched security vulnerabilities and then essentially just wrote the same thing over and over and over again about how it's a sign of the whole project without really building up a case showing consistent negligence.

> It's exhausting to go through life if you think every field is a battlefield.

This is really the whole conversation. 'Everything is political' is literally true (they mean downstream of politics, in some sense) but it's really only brought up habitually like this to create a political conflict. Everything is also downstream of water, but it doesn't give me the right to flood your house.


Wasn't the efficacy of the focus/bionic reading stuff disproven awhile back? Are people still using it?


Yeah idk why people dig it, but they do. Maybe placebo


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