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They rolled this out in March this year in the US (and December last year in India).

I've successfully renamed an old account with an email address I no longer liked. It works quite well on everything 1st party, but does have the potential of causing issues with OAuth on poorly-coded websites that key on email instead of user ID (ie. most of them). You do get to keep your old email address though, so it still ends up working fine in practice.


Holy crap really? Yay! I know a couple of trans folks that will be ecstatic.

The feature is about fifteen years too late for me, unfortunately. By this point I need this feature to let me "merge Google accounts". But then I barely use Google anything anymore anyways.

This is exactly what RLVR is, and the reason that models have improved so much at verifiable domains like coding and math while not so much on unverifiable ones like writing and UI design.

Why did they skip version 3?

As a joke. Back when 2 came out, they promised there would never be a version 3. I.e., no breaking changes. Then they realized they did need to make a breaking change, so the only way to be true to their promise was to skip version 3.

This can be a good summary of htmx overall; a confident solution based on half understanding of the problem domain.

You’ve misunderstood the reason for v4; see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49493929

No, you misunderstand what is going on. htmx is an exercising in learning web development by someone who didn’t follow 2 decades of web development progress.

He is catching up though, now approaching the early 2010s jQuery (moxi) and backbonejs era with fixiproject.org


Htmx is a direct descendant of Intercooler.js, which has been around since circa 2013, more than a decade. Intercooler still exists and is used in production, and you can clearly see that it works almost exactly the same way as htmx does today, it just bundles jQuery together.

The creator has been working on these ideas for a long time, but the core idea–swapping HTML from the server into the DOM–has been constant throughout.

It's exactly because he followed the past two decades of web dev that htmx avoids almost everything about it. Fixi and htmx extensions follow the 80/20 principle and can work by just being dropped in with a script tag. You don't need an elaborate npm setup, same as everything else in the htmx ecosystem.


The creator is stuck in 2012 and so on as I said. If you look at project fixie, the reason htmx 4 exists, it shows how the 80/20 is an incomplete idea for something as general as a web framework. 80/20 might work for your specific use case, but as a general notion, it either gets built on reasonable constructs or grows into a Frankenstein. Htmx approach is a mirror of yaml in my ways. In denial of what it is trying to be and so turns into complete monster.

Are you sock-puppeting two different user accounts in this discussion? https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=asdfsa32

I didn’t realize that was allowed.

What do HN mods think of that, dang?


Maybe it is just that people see the same problem when it is obvious?

Haha, good one. You said ‘the creator is stuck in 2012 as I said’. Except that was said by a different user account ;-)

> now approaching the early 2010s

Correction: they didn’t ‘realize they needed to make a breaking change’, they got excited by the improvements they could unlock by using the Fetch API and wanted to make a breaking change.

The upgrade is completely voluntary: it won’t even be set as the default version in npm till next year, and there are no known security issues that would force anyone to upgrade. People happy with v2 can just stay on it for the foreseeable future.


Carson promised they'd never do a version 3...but he never said they couldn't do a version 4.

I'm so pumped for v8!

this guy gets it

Exponential versioning. Next major would be 8.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyster_(company)

There was already one that existed in the web 2.0 era. Founded in 2012, raised a $3M seed from Founders Fund and a $14M A. Completely failed though and was acquihired by Google to have the founders lead Google Play Books.

Amazon now has Kindle Unlimited but I think it's mostly romance slop and self-published books. Seems like publishing rightsholders were just too inflexible to let the business model take off.


Yeah I like reading somewhat obscure history books- no public library carries those and they're extremely expensive if you can find them.

Usually funded by universities and foundations anyway because there's no real commercial market.


Which specific product do you take? Do you have a link?


How do people publish these websites that are full of Claude-isms and slop-writing and feel proud of themselves? A single cursory read of this page with fresh eyes would tell you that the page manages to communicate zero useful information, while also being written in a way that brings a bad taste to your mouth if you can recognize AI writing. Who is this for? Why would anybody want to try a project that has such little care and attention put into it?

And lest I be misinterpreted, this is not saying that you need to learn how to do frontend in order to create a programming language. Feel free to use AI to make your website, I don't mind at all. But ultimately the words on the page are for human consumption, and if I can tell that no brain cells were put into considering them, I'm not going to be interested in consuming them. Practical advice: once you've used AI to create your website, treat all of the copy on the page as filler equivalent to 'lorem ipsum' and rewrite it all in your own words. It will go a long way towards engendering trust in your project.


They are also responding with AI generated comments. I think projects like this are being sold as some sort of engagement marketing, or maybe for something more insidious like supply chain attacks.


Unfortunately, Apple made the decision to have that be an opt-in flag for developers, and so the vast, vast majority of iPad apps don't allow themselves to be used on macOS.


That's absolutely idiotic


Sure, but the fact that you can just install Sodium completely obviates the need for the Bedrock version to exist at all.


And also it has worse performance than Java if you just install a basic optimization modpack like Adrenaline on Java, which many players do. There's effectively ~zero reason to use Bedrock if you're on PC.


GPT-6 is supposed to be using a much larger base model that just finished pretraining so the "dump another chunk of all written language" approach is still going strong.


Modern pretraining also consists of expensive human-led specialized task creation and grading loops. Synthetic generation and distillation from previous models is another input for training. I wonder how much new text contributes beyond keeping knowledge up-to-date.


The measure is to see if the results scale, not just the rumored attempts at building such a model, as o3 taught us.


Where did they get a second copy of all books, written/audio/visual media, and the web?

Couch cushions?


Where are they getting new data from at this point? Didn't they already read the entire internet?


A lot of data these days is synthetically generated. As an example, to make a model good at understanding assembly you simply need to round-trip code through a compiler and disassembler, then train against the source of truth and the assembly. You can generate arbitrary algebra expressions and have it solve it.

A lot of pretraining is also choosing the right type of data, you don't want to just have it ingest garbage (although I read that some amount of garbage actually helps the model be more robust). Pretraining crystallizes a lot of the inductive biases that post-training builds on, so by crafting the right data mixture you can make it easier for it to start off with a good foundation. There is also a lot of focus on mid-training these days, which I understand is basically either the name for the synthetic data stage, or the SFT phase before all the RL


Custom sets and mining their own users, as every lab does


Custom what though? And user queries are not a knowledge repository it’s an ignorance repo.


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