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What's your definition of "involution" here? I looked it up, but I don't understand how it relates to lying flat.

Involution in the context of China laying flat means you work harder and harder only to stay in place with no chance of getting ahead. In China they work 12h day 6 day a week and still have 0 change to buy a home, start a family, etc. The lying flat movement is about giving up on the rat race and working just enough to get by because going above and beyond only get you working yourself to death for no tangible benefit.

> I’m more and more convinced that all of AI engineering is Neijuan (内卷, meaning curl inwards). In China it describes a system that demands ever more effort and competition without improving output. The way in which it sometimes shows up in the West is the 996 nonsense. The English term for Neijuan is “Involution” from the book Agricultural Involution. Agricultural involution describes the intensification of farming that raises productivity per square meter while leaving productivity per head unchanged.

Discussed earlier today here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49654229


1 passenger fatality. They also have at least one ground fatality. (Still very impressive!)

Hear me out: If we survive at the price of our humanity, what's the point? What value does our survival have then?

Let's not be so naive about this, it happens all the time and humanity is not permanently lost. Example USA vs Indians: At first you come up with some justifications for the bad stuff you are doing, then you kind of forget about it over the centuries.

I still think that killing anything that lives out there "just in case" is a terrible idea, mind you.


For me personally, the single funniest thing was "Based on a true story".

Can anyone with more understanding explain the difference between PPI and "goods"? Is "good" anything physical, and PPI is both goods and services?

Much of the damage is from the price of diesel. Not a huge surprise, given recent events...


"It is often easier to not do something stupid than it is to do something smart."

What would Project Managers do? Manage backlog. Set priorities. See that the one customer gripe from someone's eccentric old Uncle George does not re-architect the entire UI, no matter how fervently Uncle George believes in it. Do the same as the previous sentence, when "Uncle George" is in upper management.

"There's no way back"? Only if you cannot ever form new relationships.

Look, I'm not saying it's easy. And when you're in despair, the despair makes it harder. But "impossible" and "beyond hopeless" are lies. Stop believing them. Start trying to find ways to build new relationships, even if it's slow and hard.


AI needs humans to encode ideas in words. It needs those ideas to span the space of possibilities of, say, Navier Stokes. Then AI can be, as you say, a terrifyingly effective way to search that space.

But when the building-block ideas are still being formed, I'm not sure that AI is good at forming them.


COrrect and this is how labour displacement happens.

There are many actions being performed today that can be nicely packaged.

Im already working on such a project.


Well, conservatives that were actually conservative would be a nice thing to have.

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