muzak is even more evil than a casual observer might guess -- there were forks used for essentially "labor mind control" in the 70s and 80s -- but it is hard for me to agree that the world does not need it. and the companies that made billions off of that were tech companies leeching off of working musicians too.

now, is suno a "better" way to make functional music, if it is determined to be a business necessity for thousands of businesses? idk.

but the muzak company still exists, under some other name, and i think SOMEBODY should disrupt the hell out of them, without paying session musicians $50 a day because they are exploitable.

this is where i start saying "please don't downvote me i am nice and have thought about this exact topic for the last 3 years straight, i even wrote a play about it"

the tension is going to continue for a while. this model is pretty strong, which is saying a lot.

i am a musician (songwriter/singer/multi-instrumentalist) with many, many years under my belt. i still like writing songs, i do it all the time. kind of like their educational benefits in other areas, the music models -- musiclm first, then stable, then suno for me -- have taught me, somehow, so much more about how the music i like to listen to works, and i am already seeing the benefits in my (extremely human, perhaps award-winningly so) music practice.

it is ALSO true that it can help you pinpoint all the kinds of music you like that don't exist, and that is very tempting -- with suno in particular, it can be intoxicatingly button-pushing, pun intended.

it's difficult but possible to resist that pull. there are people blissing out to inhuman music with their fave microgenres and that is bad, whether they are musicians or not. (i have a hunch that musicians are more susceptible to this particular breed of siren virus than non-, but no anecdata to back it up).

i think the main reason i risked my precious pointz by posting this is to say: it is extremely clear that lots of musicians are using this tool (and the other similar ones, lyria aside lol, rip musiclm) in both scrupulous and unscrupulous ways.

non-musicians too, but uh, maybe fewer scrupulous options open to them (doesn't take much to "be" a musician, just a willingess of soul!)

links at the top e.g. show redirect to the regular site, i presume they are supposed to go to a filtered version

hard to argue that the UBHON is a recurring theme these days! rimshot

or they just love wordpress, the product, so much, and believe in it fully. lol

Or they need the pay. It's all well and good to go "they could just leave" but then what? Spend 6 months looking for a new job only for everyone to go "sorry, the hundreds of thousands of layoffs from every other highly skilled tech workforce beat you to it"?

saying "the exact same products" when the products in question are constantly expanding (and occasionally contracting) libraries of video content is definitely "a move"

is the $100K ARR quote a typo?

NO, this is referring to more than 750 customers with (large) $100K ARR, not Miro's ARR in total.

Why would it be a typo? Miro was doing $600M ARR, some of their customers were paying them $100k+ a year. That is totally normal. It would be weird if they did not have such customers.

yeah this was a misread of the surrounding context, my bad

fwiw, the new pebble lasts a week on a charge and it is great. but agree most of the smart features are still useless.

It's great except for the side button durability. I had to throw my latest Pebble out because of that.

yeah, i could at least see telling this muse thing to post stuff to instagram for me.

oh, you eye?

i prefer wee